The Dutch word "pij," for the type of wool used to make the coats, evolved into "pea. Knowing what clues to look for can help you tell the general age of a vintage Navy pea coat. Go through the inside of the vintage Navy pea coat, along the seams, to find a label. Labels may be inside the pockets, too. A black label with yellow letters signifies a pre coat. World War II U. These coats can be dated as having been made during World War II, between and No Navy pea coat will be older than the early 19th century, when the U. Navy began using them. Examine the cut of the vintage Navy pea coat.
Excellent with extremely light wear. Kersey wool shell is in fantastic shape - no moth damage, no holes, no stains, it looks essentially new. Satin lining is in excellent shape with only light wear and no holes or stains. Original size tag in neck and name tag in chest are both missing. All buttons and the neck strap are present. The corduroy pockets are fantastic - once you feel them, you'll want to corduroy pockets in everything! Please PM me for international shipping quote. Vintage peacoat dating info: Photo Sep 20, 2 27 05 PM.
Photo Sep 20, 2 26 08 PM. Photo Sep 19, 12 16 00 PM. Photo Sep 19, 12 15 02 PM. Photo Sep 19, 12 13 48 PM. Please let us know what you think of them in the thread in the Observation Bar. Jan 23, 1. Neither had the same outer shell finish as the original one I had liked so well.
- Our Everyday Video.
- private dating scan cambridge?
- How to Tell the Age of a Vintage Navy Pea Coat;
Research showed there were no good reference sources for verifying the provenance of these fine coats. As I researched and gained experience with the coats, I made a conscious decision to take notes and photos and to save them. This decision proved fortuitous when I found the Fedora Lounge and was able to answer questions about a coat that someone owned or a coat someone wanted to buy. I am happy to have found a place to share my knowledge about these wonderful pieces of history. This discussion will bring together the comments I have made in my numerous posts in the peacoat thread, plus information I have not yet commented on.
During my research I found that no one really knows exactly when peacoats came to be the uniform coat for sailors, but for our purposes it is close enough to know that the US Navy adopted the coat from the British Navy. The coats have changed a bit over the years. The differences, some subtle and some obvious, allow us to determine the approximate date of manufacture and subsequent entry into service of each of the coats.
The information in this article is arranged chronologically, starting with the WWI era and continuing through current issue. Only Navy issue peacoats are discussed. Because of certain limitations inherent in the Board, I will submit this article in five separate posts. Notice the two sets of pockets on the front of the coat and the extra length of the coat.
The hand warmer pockets are high on the chest with the flap pockets at the waist. The hand warmer pockets remain in the current version, while the flap pockets have long since been discontinued. The hand warmer pockets were placed lower on the coat for a more comfortable fit, and the side flap pockets were eliminated. The buttons were also changed. The 13 stars around the perimeter of the button were removed. There were eight buttons showing on the front of the coat with small buttons under the collars, and an attached throat latch so the coat could be tightly buttoned at the throat.
Pea coat - Wikipedia
There was one row of stitching approximately 3" above the cuff, which also had a single row of stitching just above the cuff. The hand warmer pockets were lined with tan or light brown corduroy. There was an anchor in the upper right hand corner and the upper left hand corner of the tag.
- free christian dating in kenya.
- speed dating guyane!
- Welcome to our community;
- high school dating rules.
It is possible that there were variations on this tag. See the photographs of the WWII coat and the tag below. The coat appears black in the photograph, but it is dark midnight blue.
Both of my WWII coats are more closely fitted than any of my other peacoats. The coats became a little looser as the decades moved on. I believe this tag was a second tag in addition to the breast pocket tag, and was located at the collar on the inside, right at the hang loop. I say this because one of my WWII coats has an almost identical tag, and that is where it is located.
That coat also has the standard tag on the inside breast pocket. It is possible that the peacoats also carried this type of tag at some point during the war. The below photographs are of a Bridgecoat year unknown and a tag from a bridgecoat. A bridgecoat is a full length just below the knees double breasted overcoat worn by all naval officers and chiefs, E-7 through E Bridgecoats have a zip out lining to make them warmer when needed.
I have placed my original size 40 peacoat next to the bridgecoat in the photograph for comparison. While officers and chiefs are authorized to wear the bridgecoat, they may also wear a peacoat. The peacoat worn by an officer or chief has gold buttons and is called a reefer, instead of a peacoat.
The only difference between a peacoat and a reefer is the gold buttons. The officers also wear shoulder boards indicating their rank. The chiefs wear no rank insignia. Bridgecoat Bridgecoat tag. Jan 23, 2. The number of buttons showing on the front of the coat changed from eight to six. This change lengthened and widened the lapel, which allowed it to lie flat against the body of the coat. It made for a neater presentation while only allowing a slightly larger opening at the top of the chest. The dense smooth wool outer shell remained unchanged, with a few exceptions.
In the 70s there was at least one contract for the Melton wool, which became the standard shell from to present. The color remained the deep midnight blue in these Melton contracts. All of the pre peacoats I have seen that have Melton wool shells are labeled as such. Post WWII coat and earlier tag While the coats themselves remained unchanged for almost 35 years — , there were numerous tags used during this period.
It is this practice that makes dating these pieces of history accurate within a several year period. As the peacoats remained relatively unchanged until about , the remainder of the discussion will focus on the uniqueness of the tags to establish a date for the coats. My coat has the nicest finish of any of my coats. It has the standard 6 button showing front with double stitching on the sleeves, about 3" up from the end of the cuff, and a single row of stitching right at the cuff. I believe this tag was used up until about or Jan 23, 3. In and the date was embedded in the contract number, so the dates for these tags are definitive.
Vintage WWII US Navy Peacoat Size 38-40 in EXCELLENT condition
Also the tag is definitive, as I know who owned the coat and the year he joined the Navy. So, based on the known factors, we are able to give an educated guess for the dates of the other tags. The first tag shown below appears to be the same tag as the one issued in , but with the added instructions for cleaning the coat. I would place this tag at about because of the instructions panel.
Note that the instructions were used on the tag as well. That is one reason I say after The anchors are in both of the upper corners; they both just aren't visible in the photograph. I do know it is a post war tag because it came from a six button coat. I think it is approximately a tag for several reasons: The wording is almost identical to the tag, but the font is different. It has an "older" look to it.
The anchors are fouled, which is first definitively noted in